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Yet Another 3D IC-Based ASIC Prototyping System

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JezmoSSL
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1/22/2013 5:29:31 PM
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Re: Old ASICs-- And Masks were cut with Exacto and Rubylith tape
Yeah but we had to pay him to let us work there and at weekends he would come round and screw your pelvis to a cake stand Then he would kill you, dance on your grave and sing, but you tell that to kids these days and they don't believe you

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Max Maxfield
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1/22/2013 5:23:46 PM
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Re: Old ASICs-- And Masks were cut with Exacto and Rubylith tape
@Jan: Who's fighting it?

Not me ... I don't like fighting :-)

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Max Maxfield
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1/22/2013 5:22:47 PM
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Re: Old ASICs-- And Masks were cut with Exacto and Rubylith tape
@Jezmo: We had to carve the ones and zeros from cheese, and we had to round the edges off the ones so they didn't get stuck in the wire, and we had to walk home in our bare feet while our boss rode on our backs, laughing as he whipped us...

 

So, you know what I'm talking about then :-)

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JezmoSSL
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1/22/2013 5:20:39 PM
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Re: Old ASICs-- And Masks were cut with Exacto and Rubylith tape
After the layout group had done their job, they delivered the layout to us as a massive (for the time) ASCII text file. A '1' meant metal layer 1; a '2' menat metal layer 2; an 'X' indicated a via between metal layers 1 and 2; and so on for the P-type silicon and N-type silicon and so forth. This is the file that we had to ptint out in strips and tape together -- then we compared thsi layout to the original schematics in the ring binder. Yea luxury We had to carve the ones and zeros from cheese, and we had to round the edges off the ones so they didn't get stuck in the wire, and we had to walk home in our bare feet while our boss rode on our backs, laughing as he whipped us

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1/22/2013 4:28:36 PM
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Re: Old ASICs-- And Masks were cut with Exacto and Rubylith tape
@Karl "Schematic design entry vs HDL has become a Holy War"

Really? Who's fighting it?

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Max Maxfield
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1/22/2013 1:57:23 PM
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Re: Old ASICs-- And Masks were cut with Exacto and Rubylith tape
@William: Check out This Blog for some interesting first-hand account of using Rubylith

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William Murray
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1/22/2013 1:48:13 PM
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Max Maxfield
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1/22/2013 12:43:20 PM
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Re: Old ASICs-- And Masks were cut with Exacto and Rubylith tape
@Karl: After I posted, then realized I misread...

No worries -- I'm just delighted that someone takes the time to read my blogs (grin)

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Karl
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1/22/2013 12:39:46 PM
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Re: Old ASICs-- And Masks were cut with Exacto and Rubylith tape
@Max:  After I posted, then realized I misread -- too late.  Sorry.

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Max Maxfield
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1/22/2013 11:52:46 AM
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Re: Old ASICs-- And Masks were cut with Exacto and Rubylith tape
@Karl: In the case of our schematics, we hand-drew them with pencil and paper. Once one's fellow design engineers had agreed that things were as they shoudl be, these hand-drawn schematics went to the drawing office where they were re-drawn using official company stencils (and sharp pencils :-)  Ofter that, the schematics were kept in a big ring binder as you say.

When I was talking about taping things to gether, I wasn;t talking about the schematics, I was talking about the layout. And by layout I mean the nitty-gritty metal and gate structures on the surface of the silicon chip. After the layout group had done their job, they delivered the layout to us as a massive (for the time) ASCII text file. A '1' meant metal layer 1; a '2' menat metal layer 2; an 'X' indicated a via between metal layers 1 and 2; and so on for the P-type silicon and N-type silicon and so forth. This is the file that we had to ptint out in strips and tape together -- then we compared thsi layout to the original schematics in the ring binder.

 

 

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