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Power Consumption in FPGAs, Part 1

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Max Maxfield
Max Maxfield
2/5/2013 12:44:45 PM
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Re: Excellent topic!
@Paul: I'm looking forward to seeing what your next blog will cover .. any clues?

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geekyasa
geekyasa
2/5/2013 11:37:45 AM
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Re: Excellent topic!
Thank you for the updates Paul. It really did help me alot since I was working on a project which involves these parts here and there. You are a genious Paul. Truely .

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Paul Dillien
Paul Dillien
1/30/2013 10:41:34 AM
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Re: Excellent topic!
Hi hash.era

I'm glad that you found it interesting.  Parts 2 and 3 have also been published.  You might like to read those too.  

In Part 2 (http://www.programmableplanet.com/author.asp?section_id=2042&doc_id=256609) I look at the tools that the FPGA companies issue to help you get a fix on the likely power consumption of your planned design.

In part 3 (http://www.programmableplanet.com/author.asp?section_id=2042&doc_id=258236&) I discuss a novel scheme that Xilinx has for reducing power in selected Virtex-7 FPGAs.

BTW, I didn't realise I could work miracles...  :)

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hash.era
hash.era
1/30/2013 10:12:37 AM
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Re: Excellent topic!
Thank you Paul. It worked like a miracle. Thank you again

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William Murray
William Murray
12/1/2012 8:15:20 AM
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Re: A Often over looked topic
In downhole directional drilling tools and similar very high temperature applications, power and thermal become very critical.   The tools must last for over 1K hrs at temperatures approaching 200 deg C.   Every bit of margin in the parts helps when they are pushed beyond their limits to these kind of extremes.  

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Adam Taylor
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12/1/2012 8:05:10 AM
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A Often over looked topic
Paul,

An excellent blog, one of the major challenges we face is not only acheiving the functional performance but also ensuring the components are operating within their derated junction temperatures. 

We spend a lot of time and effort doing power analysis and thermal analysis to ensure in orbit these devices will function for the mission duration. 

At times what I would give to be able to use forced air flow.

Adam 

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JezmoSSL
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11/30/2012 1:58:44 PM
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Re: Sometimes things like to be hot ;-)
Cameras in Canada and china get exposed to those temps, they are mounted on poles at the side of the road, they are hermetically sealled with a nitrogen atmosphere

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devel@latke.net
devel@latke.net
11/30/2012 11:28:44 AM
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Re: Sometimes things like to be hot ;-)
It's interesting that the ANPR camera performance deteriorates. You would imagine that the thermally created noise in the sensor would be reduced and that the silicon would run faster. Of course, -40 degsC is the lower operating limit for Industrial grade FPGAs, so operation below that would technically require defense grade parts specified down to -55 degsC.

Where are you installing a camera which gets all of the electronics down to -40 C (or -40 F) (that's a joke)? Certainly the sensor needs to be cold, much colder than the controller electronics. But unless you're in a vacuum, that kind of cooling will tend to make it snow on your electronics. Which is something that's a lot of fun on the test bench, not so much at the end user's installation.

 

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JezmoSSL
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11/30/2012 8:54:55 AM
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Re: Sometimes things like to be hot ;-)
the image sensor generates double the thermal noise for every 7 degree increase in temperature, but we or rather i found a problem in the sony Bayer filter asic in which it stopped working below about 5 degrees, so we ended up implmenting the Bayer filter, white balance and colour correction in the FPGA

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Paul Dillien
Paul Dillien
11/30/2012 5:44:51 AM
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Re: Sometimes things like to be hot ;-)
@JezmoSSL

Some interesting observations. You would not get the "Mr hamsters DSP fractally thingy" to run at 500 MHz if you used the programmable logic in the fabric rather than the DSP blocks, of course, but I wonder how much higher the dissipation would be if it were possible.


It's interesting that the ANPR camera performance deteriorates. You would imagine that the thermally created noise in the sensor would be reduced and that the silicon would run faster. Of course, -40 degsC is the lower operating limit for Industrial grade FPGAs, so operation below that would technically require defense grade parts specified down to -55 degsC.

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