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Jacek Hanke

Is the 8051 MCU Still in the Game?

Jacek Hanke
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EdV
EdV
6/4/2012 12:17:42 PM
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Re: I want to look "under the hood"
I am with Max on this one and would like to know generally what approach you took to increase rate instruction execution.   Longer instruction words perhaps?

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Duane Benson
Duane Benson
6/1/2012 2:52:07 PM
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I want one
The 8051 has stayed with us because it just works. To have the worlds fastest FPGA 8051 core is very exciting. I'm not quite at the point in my studies where I have the ability to configure and use an MCU core but as soon as I am, I want to get my hands on this one. Question: when you have a core like this, is it possible to install multiple in a single FPGA or does the core need to be specifically designed for that?

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Brian
Brian
6/1/2012 1:56:30 PM
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8051 and DAC
 

I agree with Adam - Excellent blog! 

I have worked with 8051 projects using the Infineon XC800 family of devices.  Great core design, great MCU design.

Re: "By the time you read this blog, I will be on my way to the Design Automation Conference (DAC)"

I sure hope you made that statement above just to rub it in to Max because he can't attend DAC this year :-) 

Thank you for taking your time to share your experiences!

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Adam Taylor
Adam Taylor
6/1/2012 10:56:41 AM
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Excellent blog!

This shows the best of FPGA, excellent engineering and market recognition in that you realise many people have vast experiences with the 8051 and that there is a market for better performance which enable the end users better products. As you say the traditional device while functional is limited in performance, you're development enables people to use the IP core to achive previosuly unheard of performance for the 8051 while people familiar with the 8051 as SW developers require little additional learning to acheive the desired results. 

Excellent work. 

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Max Maxfield
Max Maxfield
6/1/2012 10:50:42 AM
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I want to look "under the hood"
When I left university, my first job was as a member of a team designing CPUs for mainframe computers. Later I created simulation models of everything from ASIC cell libraries to full-blown microprocessors. As part of the book I co-authored (How Computers Do Math) I designed a simple 8-bit microprocessor ... we deliver this on a CD that accompanies the book as a virtula machine (the srtange thing is that a number of folks have built real-world versions of this "beast").

All thsi to say that I would REALLY like to peek "under the hood" to see how you created your 8051 architecture to achieve these speeds.

If I ever manage to visit Poland -- you can bet that you will find me knocking on your office door, and you won;t get rid of me until you've shown me everything :-)

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William Murray
William Murray
6/1/2012 10:49:13 AM
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Many 8051 Projects under the Belt
I have many 8051 Projects under my belt --  Ranging from the old Intel FA series parts to the Silicon Labs Parts and have even looked at 51 cores in an FPGA.  FreeRTOS for the 51 makes Software nice for the larger projects.

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