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The 'Knack' & the 'Hook'

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geekyasa
geekyasa
2/28/2013 9:41:21 PM
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Re: Facinating Subject -- Looking forward to reading more
@hash: Sorry I couldnt find. I did download 2 but one was broken and the other contained something else. If can please upload a link for me.

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hash.era
hash.era
2/23/2013 10:39:00 PM
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Re: Facinating Subject -- Looking forward to reading more
Not from youtube. I got it from rapid share. Just go to raid share and search for it. Get the video clip which has tagged as latest along with the name. There are so many but get the one with the tag latest.

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JezmoSSL
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2/23/2013 4:10:52 AM
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Re: Facinating Subject -- Looking forward to reading more
from a philosophical perspective the feeling is that a sentient machine isnt achieveable because 

A. Nobody has the slightest idea of how you define consiousness

B, ideas such as godel's incompleteness theorem suggest that there are operations which can never be shown to be true or false in a sufficiently complete mathematical system, so maybe conciousness isnt something which can be described in any formal system, and so isnt achievable in any form of algorithm.

c, people like Roger Penrose have suggested a quantum entanglement model of signal processing within the brain.

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geekyasa
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2/23/2013 12:18:26 AM
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Thats great Jexmo and surely it will be interesting. Any idea of how FPGA can be linked towards the betterment of it ? 

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rfindley
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2/21/2013 5:13:30 PM
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Re: Facinating Subject -- Looking forward to reading more
@Jezmo, I have seen the technology referred to in the video.  It is delivering some great new data that will be helpful to brain modelers.

I also have an interest in the philosophy side of things.  My own views have changed back and forth a few times based on various discoveries of the last decade.

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JezmoSSL
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2/21/2013 4:29:56 PM
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interesting story i saw the other day about how neurons are connected in the brain.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21489097

as my better half did her doctorate in philosophy she can tell you in gory detal why any form of computer intelligence will forever remain artificial and how its impossible for any machine to to become truly sentient, its all to do with Godel's completeness theorem and Church's hypothesis. 

Ill have to get her to join APP, she can talk the hind legs off a donkey then talk it into going for a walk afterwards.

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geekyasa
geekyasa
2/21/2013 10:25:54 AM
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Re: Facinating Subject -- Looking forward to reading more
@ hash: From where did you get the video clip ? From youtube ? If so can you give the link to me please ?

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hash.era
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2/20/2013 11:13:36 AM
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@ William : I havent read it but have seen the video of the real neurons via laser thing. Its simply awsome. Cannot believe how they did it in that time frmae without much support from technology like we do get these days.

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Steve Leibson
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2/19/2013 7:43:08 PM
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Welcome to the Planet
Robin,

 

I see we're starting on the same day. I like your post. It must have been great to have a Dad to teach you this stuff.

 

--Steve

 

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William Murray
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2/19/2013 7:31:41 PM
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Facinating Subject -- Looking forward to reading more
A fascinating subject -- I am looking forward to reading more -- I recall one interview back in the 1980's where the UNT staff was studying networks of real neurons via laser and ITO on glass probing.  Some of that type of research likely laid the ground for some of what is now known about neurons.

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