@Adam: I thought you always "appeared" for free??  :-)

I will even waive my appearance fee;)

It could be great, examples, how to etc

Re: APP conference

Let's bring it up to Max next year.  Maybe Xilinxwill sponsor it!

We will def have to have a APP conference, have a great new year 

Can't wait to hear your stories.......in-person!

I love the stuff

@Adam: yeah, soju removes skin - there should be warning labels :-)

@Brian I took a close family friend to a korean resturant in london not long ago and the Soju got him good. Mind I had o skin on my elbows the next day and no idea how lol 

Bye all - Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!  See you all in 2013!!!

@Duane: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!  see you in 2013!

Good byyyyyyeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!

@Adam: Re: and beg as I might they would not let me go along for a flight in one

That's because they could smell the $5k worth of Soju on your breath - they were worried you might do something crazy in the air (or lose something, rather :-)

Merry Christmas, bye

I'm heading out too. Have a great holiday all

Remember that there wonlt be a chat next week -- but there will be one the week after

Indeed have a great Holiday all 

OK Everyone -- I have to go because I have a conf call coming up about Design West (by the way, everyone at EE Times is saying that my "Processors and Programmable Devices" track has the best line-up of speakers and topics!!! (Again, Adam, Duane, Jeremy, Warren, and yours truly ... to name but a few)

I hope you all have a WONDERFUL Holiday and a FANTASTIC New Year!!!

The only downside to the trip was they were making fighter aricraft where I was based and beg as I might they would not let me go along for a flight in one 

@Paul: take care and Happy Holidays!

@Adam: Re: I am sure Brian nows all about itaewon ;)

Yuuup!

@Crusty: take care and Happy Holidays!

@Brian it was the best two weeks I have ever had had work and long night. I was not paying but the bar wills were north of $5K every night lol

@Adam: I daren;t even think what the bar bill was in Japan -- but I was the guest so I never got to see it

By Paul

@Adam: Re: I must share with you my Korea drinking stories

I think I told you in a previous comment/chat that I was stationed in ROK in 1988-1989 while in the US Army.  I look forward to your stories - maybe we'll meet at a conference sometime.  Or, if Max will ever hurry up and schedule that APP conference - it might be sooner  :-)

By Crusry -- see you in the next chat a week next Thursday

Must sign off, but not befors wishing everyone a great holiday, and an even more enjoyable New Year

Happy Christmas, Paul

@max lol people retired from some of the bar bills... I am sure Brain nows all about itaewon ;)

I loved the food in Korea -- have you ever been to a whisky bar in Japan?

Take care Crusty

@Max, If I make it to Design West, I'll volunteer for "designated photographer".  I'm not a drinker, so I'll make sure to document everyone's experiences  :-)

@All thanks for a great year, I am now off to get well and truly fed and drunk and hide in my attic workshop from the rest of the visiting family.

See you all in the New Year

@adam: Max I must share with you my Korea drinking stories

I already heard about them from th eguys in Korea (they said you were a wimp :-)

Brian - Volcanoes are kind of cool though. And unique in this part of the world. We have to have some claim to fame.

@Adam: Re: I am sure there will be pictures

I can't wait!!

@Max Re: Yes -- of you passed out under the table when you fail to keep up with the rest of us on the drinking front...

Oh, these will be great photos!  :-)

So is anyone else going to Design West apart from myself, Adam, Duane, Jeremy, and Warren?

@Adam, re zynq:  I'm both a hw and sw guy... Like you, I like to learn something inside and out before jumping much into the examples and tutorials.

@Duane: Re: nothing happens here..........Just the occasional volcano.

Hmmm...  'Nuff said :-)

Max I must share with you my Korea drinking stories 

@Hamster: Happy holidays!

@Hamster: Isn't it currently summer "Down Under"

Hi Hamster Best of the season and hope you escape TEOTW

@Max, yes, I'll send you a photo.

All Hail The Mighty Hamster!!!

@adam: @Brain I am sure there will be pictures

Yes -- of you passed out under the table when you fail to keep up with the rest of us on the drinking front...

Hamster - Have a good holiday!

@hamster you to 

@Brian: you guys have to tell us what happened on that trip when you get back! 

What happens at Design West stays at Design West

@rfindley: I am about 30 miles West of Huntsville, Alabama.  (Near our Editor-in-chief...)  I make it over your way some - I was in ATL/Duluth a couple of weeks ago...

Max - LOL

@Robin -- Re your wife's Bonsai -- if you send me a picture I'll post it in a blog

@Duane: I think that's why the European explores eventually made it out West...

Reminds me of a joke about European settles in New York hundreds of years ago saying "Well, it's cold enough here, and it's wet enough here, but it's not quite as windy as we'd like it" ...

... which is how the city of Chicago came to be founded

@Brain I am sure there will be pictures 

(Late response, just catching up)

@Adam: Max sounds good the first one to pass out pays then

Seriously, you guys have to tell us what happened on that trip when you get back!  We'll have to dedicate a whole chat to it! :-)

Brian - The one good thing we have to offset the rain is that for the most part, nothing happens here. Earthquakes are rare and small, no tornadoes or hurricanes to speak of. No blizzards. Almost no poisonous insects of snakes. Just the occasional volcano.

@Brian, where are you in the Southeast?  I'm in northeast Georgia... looking at the silhouette of the smokies through the fog of rain.

(Late response, just catching up)

@Max: @Duane: Are there any alien spaceships like in "The Life of Brian"?

I resemble that remark!!  :-)

(Late response, just catching up)

@Duane: It only rains twice here in Oregon. Once from September through January and once from January through August.

Ha!  Seriously, I would move! ;-)  I live in the Southeast and while we have lots of rain, we still have lots of sunshine.  And, even the Southeast is too rainy/cold for my liking!  I miss the Southwest!

@Max: as for Duane reminding you of England - you were smart, you did move!  :-)

Max - Yes - good picture

@Max The picture explains the Eiffel Tower it is actually an alien space ship and the cloaking mechanism has failed.

@Max, the photo reminded me of a Bonsai.  My wife recently ventured into constructing artificial bonsai trees, and her first one turned out fantastic!

Rfindley - Thanks. I've used Linux off and on over the years, but just more or less poked at it. I've never done anything real, so some of the fundamentals trip me up on a regular basis.

Max it was a great picture 

@All: What did you think about the picture in this week's "Don;t forget the chat" blog?

Max - I think that's why the European explores eventually made it out West back a few hundred years ago. They kept looking for a place where the weather felt like home.

@Duane, both Hamster and I (and probably a few others) have extensive Linux experience.  You've got my email if you have questions, or want to tag-team anything.

Duane I am not sure all of my applications so far have been bare metal. It was just a thought I had driving to work the other day 

@Duane Got a Slovakian internet magazine that specialise on Bascom,want an article on how it works out. This has really given me a reason to put head down and get it working

Adam - I haven't fully explored the Linux yet. Does it have gcc on it?

@Duane: It's cold here.

My God man -- will you never stop reminding me about the English summers of my youth!

@Paul - lol

Adam - re myths: Darn. I'd like a little global warming about now. It's cold here.

@Max I was talking about global warming 

Crusty - Cool. I'll be interested to hear how that goes.

@adam: sadly both are myths

Are you taking the myth?

@Duane not sure it is possible but it is then really like the chicken and egg which came first 

@Duane I have started on the Brian Pape article on how to put AVR8 and Bascom on a papilo one

@Duane sadly both are myths

@Crusty: Doctor thinks I may have early onset

Bummer

I said it was just heavy drinking

LOL

Re: Mayan calendar,
There is much evidence to indicate that solar years used to be 360 days before a cataclysmic event... I forget what year.  Anyway, all the major ancient civilizations used to have 360day years until that particular time.

Adam - That would be cool. Probably pretty slow though.

I was hoping Global warming woulld take us out before the Mayan's got the chance to.

@Duane: I haven't read Discworld.

You don;t knwo what you are missing -- see the link I gave before for th esuggested reading order

@Duane I did have a very mad idea the other day about installing ise on linux on the ynq and then using it to place and route its own bit files 

@Adam: I thought that one of the key points about the long count calendar was that it DID account for leap years (much better than European calendars did)

@duane there seems to be a lot to dig through to do most things with it ;) which is to be expected

Hope Terry keeps the memory loss at bay, Doctor thinks I may have early onset I said it was just heavy drinking

Hello everyone!  I made it!  (Sorry I'm late, but better late than never.)  I'll be back in a minute - going to go scan to catch-up and see what I missed!

I haven't read Discworld.

Adam - I want to be able to get data in and out of the FPGA, in and out of Linux, and back and forth between Linux and the FPGA. It's obviously possible, but there's a lot to dig through to get to that piont.

@crusty the mayans did not understand leap years so the dates are off I think. 

@Warren, Crusty: A lot of the Discworld fans from Terry's fan club were extras in "Going Postal" -- I heard tha tthey are making another film as we speak -- but I'm not sure which one

@Crusty- What Max said!

@all BBC News now has the Mayan long calendar news spot, Must have read Max's blog on that

@Duane sounds like a good approach, you can tell I am a hardware engineer I want to understand how to put it into a system configure it etc (via tool chains) before I do anything to exoitic with it 

Hi Jarclan  "Does every place expect massive overtime the week before Christmas, or is this just an engineering thing?"

I've been trying to speak to University Professors this month (about programmable RF not logic) and they all seem to have fled the office for hills as soon as the last student is out of sight.  Their overtime is probably working with commercial companies...

@Crusty: "Going Postal" was BRILLIANT!!! It was absolutely spot on with regard to the characters and the sets and everything -- I wish they woudl make films of all of the books to this quality -- you should get it to watch over Christmas

Adam - I'm still working on figuring out what I/O is accessible directly from the FPGA vs through Linux. When I start doing things with the FPGA, I'd like to try an have Linux still working.

@jarclan: Does every place expect massive overtime the week before Christmas...

I don't know -- I do know that the APP copy desk is shutting down next week, so I have to spend tomorrow pre-loading articles to keep us going through the week (what would the day be like without something new on APP?)

@rfindley sounds very interesting 

Disc World was to my older children what Harry Potter was to the youngest.

@Duane sounds good I am trying to ensure I cover all of the basics of the device and how it might be implemented at the moment 

@Adam, re: Zynq,  I've played around with Linux and Android... decided to stick with Linux for now, as the Android build is an old version (ancient, actually).
 More interesting, though... I've been putting together a design for a Zynq-based alternative to a brain-simulation supercomputer.   Lots of fun!

@Warren not seen going postal yet

@Crusty: Max do you like Disc World series?

I should say so -- I have them all here in my office -- check out my Got Discworld? blog for a really cool "reading order guide"

@Max Adam If I get some time off from repairing my sons home Adam may get another blog about how not to do things with an FPGA

@Jarclan just an engineering thing I have been off this week but did have to go into the office on tuesday 

Adam - I've been reading and fiddling with the Linux component. I'm trying to get a system that reasonably easily allows me to modify the SD card. There are a number of folks who've set up scripts, but I can't seem to get the scripts to run. I have to go through all of the steps to mount, modify and unmount the SD card by typing line by line.

@Crusty- Disc World series are great! Have you seen any of the Made for TV movies- Going Postal is very fun. HogFather too... Good to watch for the holidays...

Does every place expect massive overtime the week before Christmas, or is this just an engineering thing?

@adam: What progress are people making with their Zynq boards...

I'm living vicariously through your blogs

@ Max do yuu like Disc World series

What progress are people making with their Zynq boards, I am just looking at the configuration of it all at the moment 

@jarcan: I'm more on the "or so" side

To which comment were toy referring (I'm losing the thread)

Max - No Alien spaceships. ET tried to phone home but got electrocuted so the Dwarves abandoned him and his alien friends never got the message.

Hi Jarcan

Hi all.

@Duane whats nice about the Hobbit is it was written for children The Trilogy was essentially a teaching aid at University

Paul!!! Great to see you

Everyone -- Paul recently published the lates tversion of his FPGA Market Report (it's about the same number of words as LOTR) -- see my blog on this report

I just started re-reading the Hobbit a couple of days ago. The group just left the path in Mirkwood trying to get thre the Elves' feasts.

I'm more on the "or so" side

@Max I think like you AAT started me thinking that writing could be fun

Hi everybody.

Better late than never..

Adam - I can see how it would be difficult to follow without having read the books fist. They tried to add in some back story to explain some things, but there's a lot to try and pick up that there just isn't time for in the movie.

Hi Robin -- how goes things?

@Adam: Maybe that is were I am missing out I never read the books

That's very sad ... as a young lad those books transported me to another world

I still re-read LOTR every two years or so...

I must warn you having been off work since the 14th I am getting lots of practive 

Max sounds good the first one to pass out pays then

@ Duane, worth it as some of the only poetry I have ever liked

@Adam: Max I demand satisfaction, pistol, blade or cannon sir

How about if I just drink you under the table at Design West

(To add insult to injury I'll let you pay for the beer)

Maybe that is were I am missing out I never read the books 

Running behind, but I'm here... Hello all!

Max - There are some difference from the book like in LOTR, but I won't spoil those parts for you.

I read the four books so many times when I was younger that I could have told the stories almost word for word from memory. I did not red the individual Bombadil story thogh.

Sad to say I did not like it at all

@Duane: Are there any alien spaceships like in "The Life of Brian"?

Max I demand satisfaction, pistol, blade or cannon sir 

@Duane: I won't spoil it for you then.

I know the story -- do you mean you didn;t like it like Adam?

Max - I saw it on opening day. I didn't do the midnight showing though. I waited until 5:00pm.

@ all ever read Tom Bombadil or the Christmas letters?

I guess I can give you one spoiler though - The main character's name is Bilbo and he finds a ring.

@Adam: in retrospect I would rather have stayed home

Wash your mouth out with soap!!!  You, sir, are no gentleman!

Max they might be doing it tomorrow if the world ends lol 

Max - I won't spoil it for you then.

@Duane: Have you seen it yet?

@Duane No Hobbits here all been flooded out

@Duane: MEGA-Hobbit fan here -- but not seen the movie yet -- maybe this weekend

I saw it this afternoon, in retrospect I would rather have stayed home and worked on the Zynq I was bored 

@Adam: Max you saw the sun?? cannot have been in sheffield

Little children were crying "Mommy, mommy, what's that yellow thing in the sky?"

Hi all, dry but flooding in lower Emsworth

Any Hobbit fans here? If so, what did you think of the movie?

Hi Crusty

Hi Crusty

Max you saw the sun?? cannot have been in sheffield 

Hi Crusty

Hi From a very wet Hampshire England

@Duane: It only rains twice here in Oregon. Once from September through January and once from January through August.

Again, you remind me of England (I was 20 years old before I saw the sun for the first time :-)

MAx interesting question I have not tried it but see no reason why not 

Max - It only rains twice here in Oregon. Once from September through January and once from January through August.

Can you implement a MicroBlaze in the programmable fabric on the Zynq?

Max you are a gent, there is no rush I am just working on the Zynq Configuration at the moment 

I've had licencing problems with both the Spartan 6 LX9 board when I got it and again with the Zynq, but both were solved promptly.

@Duane: It's raining. It's cold...

Don;t -- you're making me feel nostalgic ... you're reminding me of a summer's day in England

Adam -- it migh tbe  abit late now -- Xilinx are closing down for the holidays -- but if you remind me I'll ping them and try to sort out that license problem

It's Thursday. It's raining. It's cold, but I'm ready to chat.

Hi there Myplanet -- I'm so glad those books arrived

Hello !!!

HAPPY THURSDAY!!!

Good morning all

Happy Thursday to all!

Hope to attend this Years last chat section

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