OK, it is about that time -- also my tummy is rumbling -- i need to get something to eat -- see you all next week -- hope everyone has a WONDERFUL weekend
Bye Garcia -- c u next week
@Crusty: wearing a frog suit aint funny.
Well, stop doing it then!
I was thinking more along the lines of a Groucho Marx nose and moustache
@Max: wearing a frog suit aint funny.
@ALL: bye buddies!! My daughter has just woken and started to cry!
OK, gentlemaen. I must leave for the other duties. My deep apologies, but I have to leave so I can live. :0)
@intseeker: Do you mean Jailbroken or hacked?
Hacked -- he thinks people are listening to his conversations and reading his emails and texts...
Bye Crusty -- make sure to wear a disquise before you venture out into the high street
@Max: "iPhone compromised/uncompromised"
Do you mean Jailbroken or hacked?
@all: many thanks for the gaggle of girls that dropped out of the sky today after my first blog: Washing up now calls me back to earth. Bye All
@intseeker: There are 5 training session with 40 seats each -- so 200 caps to be given away here -- this is the best weay to get one. David is building 50 more to give to managers at UBM and so forth .. but this will be harder to get.
@Max-
I guess your friend could send some texts to a 'lawyer' saying he found out who has 'hacked' his phone and wants to go after them. If the 'issues' go away maybe it was real and the 'attacker' was scared off...
@Max: But in Spain one of the last greatest news was a private "secret-agents" agency spying how the politician was robbing us... a encripted voice-over-IP app may be very handy if you want to have a 100% private conference.
@Duane: On the Tuesday morning I'm givinh my first talk 8:00am to 9:00am (Click Here).
David -- the guy who is designing CapNet is giving his talk 9:15 to 10:15am (Click Here).
The problem is that you are giving your talk at the same time as David (Click Here)
So I'm going to end up running back and forth between your two papers...
@Max: When I read your iPhone post, I remebered an old friend of my infance. He started to say that somebody was spying him from the phone... then was his clock... then she tarted to see "red lights" in his room... and finally the problem sas not the phone! It's completely true, believe me ;-)
@Max: Also, did you see the article I posted on the Microcontroller Designline about our APP Propeller Beanies?
I anticipate that the Beanie CapNet thing is going to be such a success that 250 won't be enough. I need one, Max! What is UBM gonna do with all that expected (by me) demand? (grin)
Max - Sorry. I have no idea about iPhones in any reguard.
Max - I just gave it a quick read. This is sounding better every time I hear about it.
@intseeker: no! I mean "armel": ARM EABI Little-endian, a software port of Linux to the ARM architecture. The "armhf" is the one that supports hardware floating point in Cortex architecture.
Also, did you see the article I posted on the Microcontroller Designline about our APP Propeller Beanies?
@intseeker: and you can move from the original platform to others and always work in the same environment by simply copying a file! (sometimes a very big one...).
Did you see my blog on Programmable Logic Designline about the Free Hands-On Speed Training sessions at Design West? I'm planning on attending all of them
@Garcia: "ttings from "i386" to "armel" (or "armhf", I'm not completely sure)"
Do you mean Atmel?
@Warren: Actually I found the SmartFusion2 tool chain to be fairly easy to pick-up.
You are a better man than me -- it made my eyes water :-)
i am just off home now max to check my email ill give adam a shout tomorrow
@crusty @jezmo: ...they are very low power because sram based devices take a lot of static power to supply the static ram, which isnt there in flash based devices...
To be more precise -- the SmartFusion devuces have Flash-based configuration cells. This means they use less power and are "instant-on" as compared to FPGAs with SRAM-based configuratiobn cells created at the same technology node
The thing is that they still contain blocks of SRAM which do consume power.
Also, Flash-based FPGAs are usually one or (more often) two technology generations behind SRAM-based FPGAs.
Garcia - I'm sure I'll be able to find a Python to put on the Zynq.
@Garcia: "Linux ARM Target virtual machine running on the Linux X86 Host virtual machine running on your native Windows...and it makes your live easier, believe me ;-)"
That is a smart way of staying in one platform.
@Duane: I'm learning python too! If you run an Ubuntu distro in the Zynq Cortex-A9, you can install the python packages from the Ubuntu repos in the same way that it's done in an x86 machine by changing your "/etc/apt/sources.list" settings from "i386" to "armel" (or "armhf", I'm not completely sure)
@Max- Actually I found the SmartFusion2 tool chain to be fairly easy to pick-up. Lots of 'wizards' that create the RTL automatically for you so you just 'point and click' to define everything. the rest of the flow is just Synplicity, ModelSim, etc.
Bye Adam -- keep on talking to Jewzmo about getting hold of his paper
@All thanks for that feedback By adam
Garcia - "Linux ARM Target virtual machine running on the Linux X86" I hadn't thought of that approach. I'll definitely look into it.
Right gents I am going to leave the office and go home so will see you all next week
also crusty they are very low power because sram based devices take a lot of static power to supply the static ram, which isnt there in flash based devices
@Duane: for clarifying: you can use an Linux ARM Target virtual machine running on the Linux X86 Host virtual machine running on your native Windows...and it makes your live easier, believe me ;-)
Garcia - I think I still have to get the cross compiler going first because I might have to build the Android or Linux, or at least build the gcc before I can do any native development.
What I'm really hoping to be able to do is use Python on the Zynq. I'm learning it on the PC so it wouldn't be that difficult to port.
@crusty: Learning the SmartFusion tool chain/flow can be abit of a challenge...
@crusty: the original SmartFusion devices mix an hard core ARM Cortex-M3 MCU with programmable digital and programmable analog. The more recent SmartFusion2 devuces dropped rthe programmable analog
@Jezmo: It will be an interesting comparison to the papilio one
although the evaluation licence limits you to 45 days use
actel devices all use synopsis tools which are very powerful
@intseeker: Sad to relate these are Bill Bryson's words, not mine. These are from his book "A Sunburnt Country" all about Australia -- I LOVE the way he writes -- he often has me laughing out loud
@Duane: if you use Qemu plus chroot, you can work directly from the inside of an ARM rootfs. It's very handy beacuse you can deploy a compiler + dev-libraries and work in "native" mode. (There are plenty of tutorials on the web, I couldn't choose one)
its flash based so no configuration memory
@Jezimo: "oh come on max, the single most boring and tedious game in the entire universe s golf, at least you can drink at a cricket match"
You just introduced a new type of golf, where people don't take beer and wine to the course. hehehe
no smartfusion is a very respected thingy, you just need the design tools and licence
@garcia: I'm always at your service, my lord Max the Magnificent ;-)
Well -- all I can say is tha tthsi is a very healthy attitude -- I only hope everyone else takes thsi to heart :-)
No I have used a proasic one they are pretty easy to use
@All: Any one used this SmartFusion FPGA evaluation kit, have I bought an ebay turkey
@Max: After years of patient study (and with cricket there . . . . . . . English invented cricket as a way of making all other human endeavors look interesting and lively; . . . . . I don't wish to denigrate a sport that is enjoyed by millions, . . . ....
This was the best explanation I read about this English game! I suggest you post it on Wikipedia. (grin)
always available or something ,see spanish lessons ;-)
@Max: I'm always at your service, my lord Max the Magnificent ;-)
@garcia: ...siempre a su disposición, mi señor Máximo...
That's easy for you to say (grin)
What does it mean?
Garcia - library paths seem to be the bane of my exsistance. I'm not sure that anything in technology has caused me more grief.
@Máximo el Magnífico: siempre a su disposición, mi señor Máximo.
Max - "the only sport that incorporates meal breaks" Personally, I'm all for that.
oh come on max, the single most boring and tedious game in the entire universe s golf, at least you can drink at a cricket match
@Duane: cross-compilation could be very hard... be careful with "arm" library paths.
@max cricket is not a sport, you have to break for tea
@Duane: Are you planning to show us how to set up the "cross compinling" business on Linux for an arbitrary target?
@Max- Will listen and then forward any questions to you... Meal breaks sound like a good idea...
@garcia -- thansk for that translation -- my emails now have the following at the bottom:
"Mi nombre es Máximo el Magnífico y mi aerodeslizador está lleno de anguilas."
-- Max the Magnificent
"It's sometimes difficult to determine if quotes found on the internet are genuine or not."
-- Abraham Lincoln.
@Warren: here's a link to the written version... and here's a small portion:
After years of patient study (and with cricket there can be no other kind) I have decided that there is nothing wrong with the game that the introduction of golf carts wouldn't fix in a hurry. It is not true that the English invented cricket as a way of making all other human endeavors look interesting and lively; that ws merely an unintended side effect. I don't wish to denigrate a sport that is enjoyed by millions, some of them awake and facing the right way, but it is an odd game. It is the only sport that incorporates meal breaks....
ive been finishing my blog about the video stuff, it got a bit bogged down so ive rewriitten it twice
Hi Garcia - I haven't blogged about Zynq Linux yet. I've only done a little bit so far. Robin Findley has given me some hints that will help me with Linux and/or Android on the Zynq. Right now, I'm trying to get the cross-compiler up and running in a Linux virtual machine on my PC.
you know max, we shoulkd have the chat down the pub everyweek,its quite relaxing
@Warren: best to get a West Indian to explain the rules
@Duane: I've followed your blogs about simulation. I'm very interested in the topic, mostly in the different post behavioral/map/p&r modes... but what about your Linux Zynq experience?
@crusty: Mrs Crusty is disdainful of the whole thing, I suspect that this is not a proper thing for a retired railway worker to do.
How many retired railway workers does Mrs Crusty know? Tell her they are all doing it! :-)
@Max- RU going to explain cricket to us today? Is an hour enough time?
@adam: Max were are these groupies you speak of? are you supplying them at Design West?
Sorry -- everybody has to bring their own
Adam if you get a groupy let me know what I have forgotten about such things.
Mrs Crusty is disdainful of the whole thing, I suspect that this is not a proper thing for a retired railway worker to do.
Crusty - It sounds like a very fun project. I can certainly see how the PS/2 keyboard interface might be a challenge.
fame at last, dont let it go to your head crusty ;-)
Max were are these groupies you speak of? are you supplying them at Design West
So Crusty -- what's it feel like being the latest blogger on APP?
How are you getting used to the adulation -- the screaming girls whenever you walk down the street -- what does "Mrs Crusty" think about it all?
@Duane: The Keyboard interface is going to be the biggest problem to sort, but with some Hamster code it may get sorted
Hamster!!! Great to see you here - -how are things "Down Under" in New Zealand?
Hello Everyone -- Happy Thursday
Hi everyone. Did you all arrive by blimp?
Hi Crusty. I enjoyed your frst blog.
ok they might need to be zipped to get through my works mail filter
Ahh please do mate I would have replied if I had got them I promise
Good morning / afternoon / evening
i sent them two days ago, ill check to see if they bounced or something
Jezz I have not seen any files when did you send them ?
did you get the files for the presentation adam only i didnt see a response
Jezz down the pub lol I am still in the office ;)
Hopefully I have a room booked but, i have a very short time between connecting flight in LAX and have to clear imigration etc
creatings from 'down the pub'
@intseeker the "craigslist joe" approach, I might be
begging for couch or floor space as well :)
An early "hello" to you all... sadly family breakfast is in 20 minutes, but wanted to drop by and say "Hi!"
@ALL: Preliminary self welcome to today's chat. Sorry Max, I could't wait for the Editor In Chief's official greeting. I dare to propose that we start talking about alternative accomodation around the McKenery Convention Center, for those like me who didn't locate a sponsor organization. I know those listed conveniently located hotels are offering special conference rates, but I always hope for better ones. :0)
Our weekly chat will commence at 12:00 p.m. my time (Central USA Time), which is 1:00 p.m. Eastern Time, 10:00 a.m. Pacific Time, and 6:00 p.m. UTC/GMT (you'll have to work out your local time from these clues -- or you can use this handy-dandy Time Zone Converter).
As always, we will be following our usual practice of leaping from topic to topic with the agility of young, fearless mountain goats, so make sure you're wearing appropriate clothing!
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Here we discover how to use the XADC (Xilinx Analog-to-Digital Convertor) in the Zynq All Programmable SoC to read the chip's internal temperature and voltage parameters and output them over an RS-232 link.
When extreme thermal cycling causes circuit boards and chip packages and the silicon die in the packages to expand and contract at different rates, problems may ensue.
In part 3 of this epic tale we consider how we might use tri-state buffers, leading up to the legendary bi-directional buffer.
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